SMOKINCHOICES (and other musings)

June 24, 2014

Magnesium fixes many ills

 MAGNESIUM, which kind?. .for Heart, muscles,  Pain,  sleep,  inflammation,  cramps,  brain encephalitis, pre-eclampsia, convulsions

  HAVE  a link below taking you to a site I found online which is pretty classy and covered much of what I was looking for,  and I was pleased with their fact arrangement and some of the descriptions that you and I aren’t subject to learning about on any ordinary basis, including from any of our allopathic doctors.  Though primarily what interests me at this time is the subject of  MAGNESIUM MALATE

So with all my interest and prior needs going back several decades, I have never understood the distinctions I have recently come to know. . . thanks to the wonders of the internet!   For those of you who have been coming here for a few  or seven years know of the injury and inadequate advice I have been subject to in a number of  areas.   Lack of knowledge in the medical community regarding Magnesium. . .how, what,  why and when to do.   I was house-bound for almost five years because of trying to comply with demands to take more and more magnesium — needing me to be around 1200 mg daily.  It’s a wonder I survived at all, I was so chained to the toilet with endless diarrhea.  But I wasn’t utilizing the  mineral.  No one should have to take that much or even half that much, if one is indeed able to absorb this element.  But as a heart patient,  It was essential. .  so I did my best til I realized I was destroying my body if not starving it– one can’t receive nutrition and process it correctly from a damaged gut.  In order to save myself, I quit much of what I was doing and sought answers online, found Oil of Magnesium for transdermal application;  after getting a few books and other research, felt it was worth a try.   It was the answer for my gut in it’s pathetic state.   Fermented veggies were able to help in restoring my gut and health in general.. . .and to this day, I remain — the Eternal Student.

This site of course is in business selling their product;  and I’m glad they are for they do a good job in ‘splainin’ stuff.  They are using one of the forms which I am seeing is superior for its ability to BE ABSORBED that is so important!   Their product is sounding great, not cheap, but great.  I don’t sell stuff, nor affiliate with any who offer such to me.  But I also don’t want the taint of anyone thinking that maybe I really do. . .so it serves me best not to put up product discussion including how to get their line.   Hence, the link for those who need or want it to see for themselves.  I heartily approve.    This site seems geared toward helping those who suffer from muscle pain and cramps etc in the legs and other body parts. . . .even migraines, etc.  Have more to say, but check this out:

Magnesium is Fast, Easy, Safe and POWERFUL Because it Attacks Muscle Cramps from ALL Angles. How Does it Work?

According to Dr. Oz, Dr. Weil, the Mayo Clinic, and other leading authorities, magnesium deficiency is the major hidden cause of muscle cramps, and no prescription medication can fix it.  In fact, 78of muscle cramp sufferers have a severe magnesium deficiency. Without magnesium, your body is missing its most important natural defense against pain, swelling, tension and inflammation.   Studies show that aggressively fixing a magnesium deficiency can eliminate muscle cramps and prevent them in the future. (Scientific References)

This crucial mineral…

Loosens muscles by counteracting the effect of calcium, which tightens muscles. As people age, excess calcium accumulates in the muscles, causing cramps. Also, when people eat a lot of dairy and/or take calcium supplements, (especially with Vitamin D) it is easy to get calcium overload. Vitamin D is important to take, but we recommend easing back on the extra calcium for a 2 week trial basis, to see if that helps.

  1. Increases the absorption of potassium, which is critical for proper muscle function.
  2. Decreases pain by blocking pain receptors in the brain and nervous system.
  3. Dampens inflammation in the muscles and the entire body.
  4. Relaxes blood vessels and decreases blood pressure, which restores healthy circulation.
  5. Increases the production of serotonin, GABA and melatonin, which helps you relax and fall asleep.   (Scientific References)
What is the right type of magnesium to take? First, you must understand how magnesium works to relieve muscle cramps from multiple angles at once — especially how it interacts with calcium.


There’s Lots of Magnesium Products — What’s the Difference Between Them?

There are a variety of forms and each has pros and cons:

  • Magnesium oxide and hydroxide: Supplement companies love this stuff because it is cheap as dirt. Unfortunately dirt is more effective. It is very poorly absorbed (only 8%), and is highly laxative. But nonetheless, it is what you find in most common multi-vitamins. It also happens to be the active ingredient in Milk of Magnesia.
  • Magnesium citrate: It is well absorbed, but is also highly laxative. It is the main ingredient in those glass bottles of laxative at the drug store.  If you have ever had a colonoscopy, this is what they gave you to “clean you out”. It is the main ingredient in those canisters of fizzy magnesium powder found in vitamin stores.
  • Magnesium sulfate: Also known as Epsom Salt.  It is also very laxative — that’s partly what they sell it for.  But it is great for soaking!     (more on this later)
  • Magnesium glycinate: This is magnesium bound to the amino acid glycine. This form is not ideal, because… well, this gets a bit technical: Glycine acts as a “co-agonist of the NMDA receptor” where magnesium is an antagonist. What does that mean? Basically, magnesium tells your neurons to slow down, and glycine tells them to speed up.  So to a certain extent, magnesium and glycine cancel each other out. Mixing these two ingredients does not make sense, especially if relaxation is a goal of yours.
  • Magnesium chelate or glutamate: Both are the same thing. Glutamate, like glycine, is also “NMDA agonist”, with all the same problems. Plus, these products are super-cheap, in part because they frequently have substantial amounts of “unbound magnesium”, i.e. the problematic magnesium oxide, as a byproduct of its manufacturing process.
  • Magnesium chloride: Also known as road de-icer.  In supplement form, is very well absorbed, non-laxative, and free of all other side effects — but it turns to liquid when exposed to air, making it prohibitive to deliver via capsule or tablet.  It is extremely bitter, so makes a lousy drink, too.
  • Magnesium taurinate:  This is magnesium bound to the amino acid Taurine. It has the side effect of causing extreme drowsiness, which makes it difficult to take during the day. It is also very expensive.
  • MONOMAGNESIUM MALATE as found in MgBRIGHT: High absorbing, non laxative, no weird side effects. It’s an organic form found in living beings, not some crushed up rock.

 While researching online  a few days ago trying to see if I could find a better price on the Magnesium L-Threonate I have been using, I came across,  apparently a doctor in full discussion in some ongoing  dialogue with another who also, apparently is a doctor as well. It seems they disagreed.  In this forum, they were discussing clinical experience with patients etc., and the usage of magnesium.  I came away with a new understanding as to why I had been so badly served in prior years.  This stuff isn’t taught in med school, consequently — little is ‘out there’  with the doctors so it can filter down to us.   So unless, we are willing to  help ourselves — we shall suffer. Think I can find that link and give it to you so you can trudge thru it yourself, if you have a mind to. . .there you go:


One of the benefits of the good information I gleaned from this rather lengthy effort, is that  I  did  NOT replace my Magnesium Threonate, reputable, lauded and praised as it is,  because it is also rather costly as only  one of so many supplements I deem useful and good for me, and the budget can only stretch so far.  I crave and need food too and I can put 2 and 2 together!   Got Source Naturals, 360 ct of Magnesium Malate 1250 mg $21.95 from Pure Formulas, with free shipping.   Gotta say, “it works for me. .”

Here on this panel is the first time I’d heard about the differences of the different forms of magnesium, and it seems to be coming from ScienceGuy. . . or Lifetime Member (from UK).  The discussion planted many seeds in my mind, gave me much to think about, and admittedly,  revved me up.  Guess I needed that.  Been at this for days as my supply is running out so had to come to terms now,  quickly or risk set back with my various challenges.   A major point which  Lifetime Member drove home was that magnesium sulfate  aka Epsom Salts. . .(cheap enuff), was every bit as effective as costly Threonate, which he wasn’t convinced at all about the efficacy of.  Whereas , he has documented proof and experience with patients and trials showing that people of any age and health status were all equally well-served by taking a 12 minute dunk in a hot bath into which 1 or 2 cups of Magnesium Sulfate had been dissolved. 

It is easy, restful and is hugely used by many in different circumstances:   In the trials, all kinds of measurements were used;  before and after blood and urine samples and some kind of thing regarding the absorption of magnesium into the brain which is highly wanted and needed.  Apparently these results were very good with not only absorption, but retention, lasting into next day.    How easy is that?  No pills, just a soothing bath.  And the cost in the pennies range.  So, I’m gonna buy some Epsom Salts for emergencies. . .no need to worry.    If anyone goes into pre-eclampsia around me or starts up with convulsions –  somehow I’ll get them into the tub and soak ’em for 12 minutes.  

So whether you’re looking for a budget break,   having troubles with night-time leg cramps, migraine headaches or suffering diarrhea because you can’t get enough magnesium into your body,  or have miserable body pain from CFS or mind numbing pain of arthritis the ole 12″ soak’ll do ya some good (and maybe even fix your problems),  worth giving it a go, eh?   Please understand in case I didn’t make it clear. . .the 12 minute soak is giving your body the magnesium transdermally — has nothing whatever to do with the gut, so not a chance of diarrhea.  The only other form which is also safe or low – laxative is the Threonate.    

All in all, a very productive learning experience.   Learned that magnesium sulfate 12″ bath soak is an easy and efficient way to raise the blood levels of magnesium.  A good thing.           Be well,   Jan




  1. Hi Jan

    I recently started using Dr Mercola’s Magnesium L-Threonate. The container says to take two caps at midday and two caps two hours before bed. The four capsules add up to 2000 mg per day which is rather a lot. I only take two caps at night because I felt they were having a bit of a laxative affect.

    I only purchased enough to get me through the winter (It’s winter in Australia). The rest of the year I use magnesium oil. I rub it on and leave it for about an hour before rinsing it off. I find it too cold to do this in winter. The only problem I have with the oil is its skin drying effect.

    I like the idea of the Epsom Salt soak but I don’t have a water filter yet so I would be soaking up the chlorine and fluoride as well as the Salts.

    Anyhow, I love your articles, Jan, and even though I rarely comment I avidly read everyone of them.

    Comment by Mary — June 30, 2014 @ 1:14 am | Reply

    • Mary, so glad to hear from you. You have crossed my mind frequently, I wish you well, my friend.

      As to the Magnesium, I’ve only been taking the Magnesium Malate for less than a week, and as I said, one of the reasons it is important to me take this form is because of the gut reaction and diarrhea on larger doses (which most heart patients do need). The one I bought is from Source Naturals (a good one)1250 MG for 3 tablets.

      When I used the Magnesium Oil as a primary source, I never had the problem you describe and never rinsed it off til I showered. But then, I only rubbed it into the abdominal area beneath the chest but above pubic area. It was uncomfortable on arms and legs so didn’t do that, nor would I put anything onto my breasts

      You might try going online to check out the water filters for tub or shower. I only had one for the shower as I’m not a bath person – going to have to get used to that again. I wouldn’t let that stop you Mary, but it might be wiser to use less “hot” water, kinda medium hot so as not to evoke the toxins wafting up to nostrils — the really hot water which produces steam does that mostly. You can briefly shower to cleanse the toxins off the surface of your skin after the soak.

      I’ve just received my Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom Salts) and am eager to try it. Haven’t decided just how I will do this. But it would not be necessary to do both forms simultaneously. The 12″ soak gets a good supply into our body and brain — tests have measured this. Don’t know why you are taking 2K daily. . .that’s a lot! Let me mention that most labels are very confusing and it’s hard to tell what we are getting. My Malate product says 1250 MG on front label. The supplement facts on the rear say the 3 tablets (dosage), yields 425 mg or 106% DV, and further down says Malic Acid as Magnesium Malate is 2.5 G This is 3 separate and distinctly different amts.
      Personally I would question the need to ingest 2K daily, one might need a cast iron gut to tolerate that and most of us don’t have that. A lesser amount is good at bedtime as it is so helpful for proper sleep which in itself is healing.

      Keep up the good effort Mary as your positive contributions are so valuable and wonderful to the world and those like me. Thank you my dear friend. Jan

      Comment by Jan Turner — June 30, 2014 @ 2:23 am | Reply

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